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Post by Ruger Redhawk on Jun 5, 2004 13:26:23 GMT -5
My favorite would have to be the Ruger line.If it's a handgun,rifle or shotgun Ruger puts in quality to their guns.Another selling point it their Customer Service and Service dept.They are second to none.Ruger stands behind their products.
Ruger Redhawk
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Post by Danny on Jun 5, 2004 13:55:43 GMT -5
I'm partial to Browning, and Sako
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Post by Ruger Redhawk on Jun 5, 2004 16:46:40 GMT -5
Danny I'm partial to Browning and Sako's too. They just cost to much for the working man.Another fine rifle is the Tikka.I used to like Remington's,after seeing what they've turned out lately I don't want any of them.For the money Ruger and Savage are hard to beat.
Ruger Redhawk
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Post by Danny on Jun 6, 2004 14:33:12 GMT -5
Here's a web picture of my rifle. As soon as it's fully rigged, I'll take a pic of it. Tikka Whitetail Hunter, laminated/stainless, .270 Winchester, 2.5 lb trigger.
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Post by Ruger Redhawk on Jun 6, 2004 15:36:52 GMT -5
Nice looking rifle Danny, Last year I picked up a Tikka "Whitetail Hunter" in 7mm RM. Blued w/synthetic stock. I have a Leupold VarXII on it with Sako Rings.I still haven't tried it out. I'm very impressed with the craftsmanship of the rifle and the Sako rings.
Ruger Redhawk
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Post by "BIGTYME" on Jun 6, 2004 19:46:29 GMT -5
BROWNING is there anything else??
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Post by Backstrap on Jun 8, 2004 3:32:34 GMT -5
I love Remington's New or Old, they are fine accurate firearm's, and Ruger stand's behind their product's huh? Well they did not stand behind my 1976 M-77 257 Roberts, the bullet has to jump almost a full 200 thousand's before making contact with the lands, I tried to get them to repair it, but they blamed it on the two barrel manufacturer's they where using at the time(since they only recently started making their own barrel's), said they could re-barrel for me on my dime, but could not stamp the 200th year of American Freedom back on the barrel, heck it's worth 900+ bucks like it is! If I re-barrel it, you can drop the gun down to less than 200 bucks, and my dad had a Blackhawk 44 mag that blew up on him first shot he fired with it, took him 7 years of heck and quibbling to get it straightened out, I don't call that standing behind a product! Don't get me wrong I used to buy nothing but Ruger, untill I had to deal with them, and then there is that deal where they dropped the insurance on their employee's that rode motorcycles! Turned me off on them forever, I would not take one if you gave it to me!
Roll Tide Lee
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Post by hunter on Jun 8, 2004 14:58:13 GMT -5
its like a car if it shoots im happy ;D
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Post by Ruger Redhawk on Jun 8, 2004 18:04:34 GMT -5
I love Remington's New or Old, they are fine accurate firearm's, and Ruger stand's behind their product's huh? Well they did not stand behind my 1976 M-77 257 Roberts, the bullet has to jump almost a full 200 thousand's before making contact with the lands, I tried to get them to repair it, but they blamed it on the two barrel manufacturer's they where using at the time(since they only recently started making their own barrel's), said they could re-barrel for me on my dime, but could not stamp the 200th year of American Freedom back on the barrel, heck it's worth 900+ bucks like it is! If I re-barrel it, you can drop the gun down to less than 200 bucks, and my dad had a Blackhawk 44 mag that blew up on him first shot he fired with it, took him 7 years of heck and quibbling to get it straightened out, I don't call that standing behind a product! Don't get me wrong I used to buy nothing but Ruger, untill I had to deal with them, and then there is that deal where they dropped the insurance on their employee's that rode motorcycles! Turned me off on them forever, I would not take one if you gave it to me! Roll Tide Lee Backstrap, I'm surprised to hear that you weren't satisfied with Ruger's Customer Service.I've had many dealing with them.I had a Ruger Redhawk for over ten years.It wasn't shot often. It would shoot way left with the rear sight all the way to the right.Ruger adjusted it. It was better but not up to my standards.I contacted the service manager (Richard Beaulieu).He goes by the nickname DI@K Beaulieu.I was asked to return it again to his attention.This time they rebarreled it, replaced the cylinder, crane and misc internal parts. No Charge.I agree it should have been corrected the first time. Then my SRH in 454 Casull went back to the factory. I contacted Di@k Beaulieu. The scope rings were damaging the mounting rail.They agreed there was a problem with the frame. They replaced the gun. I had a 7 1/2"bbl. I asked if they would give me a 9 1/2" instead.They agreed and shipped it overnite air.If you have anymore Ruger issues contact Di@k Beulieu at the Ruger ,Newport NH facility.He'll make sure it's done right.I had another issue a couple months ago. I bought two of the 40th anniversary 10-22's. Consecutive numbers.There was a couple minor spots in the bluing apparently when the rifle was assembled. Being consecs I bought them anyway. One letter to D.B. and it was taken care of.From the time I sent it to it's return a couple weeks later. They reblued it . N/C again.I'm sorry I have to disagree with you. Ruger does stand behind their products.Your M-77 Liberty Model. The 200th Year does add a little value. Nowhere what you think it's worth.It might bring another 50.00 because of the Liberty model but by no means worth 900.00 + like you may believe.Contact Mr. Beaulieu and tell him your issues.It would be very costly for Ruger to set up for stamping a new barrel "Made in the 200th year of American Liberty". Ruger Redhawk
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Post by Renegade on Jun 8, 2004 18:34:03 GMT -5
The quality of the customer service dept. depends on the quality of the person you happen to talk to. I've never had any problems with any of the factory service reps.
Later,
Dave
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Post by Backstrap on Jun 8, 2004 18:38:19 GMT -5
hey Ruger, my dealings with ruger were over 10 years ago, they may have changed since then, if so that is good to know, sound's like you got your issues straightened out rather quickly compared to what I had to deal with! That's great, Now if we could only get Remington to do the same! LOL! Gigantic Corporation's, seem's that ruger has changed for the better! I may go back with one of their m-77 257 roberts again, I love that round and gun in a bell and carson synthetic (I saved my wood because I knew that one day they would be collecting these things) but as you said that the liberty model isn't worth 900 bucks, I hate to dissagree but my dad is a gun-smith and we looked into re-chambering the gun ourselve's to 25-06, since back then they would not deal with us, and dad called a fellow gun-smith in Arkansas 2 years ago, that also has a store and sell's gun's new and used, and he said I would just ruin the value of the firearm since it is about a 98%'er, he said that he just sold a liberty model 30-06 that was 75%'er for 800 with tax to a guy that collects them, I guess if you are a collector you will pay what the market demands if you want the gun, just like I collect Colt 45 auto's especially Army issue one's from WWII, I also collect old Currency, the stuff is expensive, but when you go to sell it off you loose your butt! I did just that when my Kahles scope was on sale, the currency dealer bought all my gold certificate's, and educational note's and I barely got 1/4 of their value, but then again I was in need of fast cash for the scope, so I sold, If I had waited and put them on E-bay, I could have at least broke even, but I would have lost the scope! So as far as collectability goes it depends on the collector and what he is willing to pay, and the smith in Arkasas said that those 257's are hard to come by, and he estimated it's value at 900+ if it was a 98 %'er, I guess the guy could have been wrong, I'll check into it, and if it ain't worth nothin' then I'll rechamber the thing to 25-06, I have always wanted one anyway, just did not have the urge to pay for one, we do a lot of trading, work on Triumph's and old Harley's for cash, gun's, or scopes, even tree-stands, lol! Anyway I'll give that guy a shout at ruger, and see if they can resolve the issue for me without ruining the collectability of the gun! Thank's for the tip!
Roll Tide! Lee
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Post by Ruger Redhawk on Jun 9, 2004 17:19:41 GMT -5
Backstrap, The reason I said your Liberty Model isn't worth 900.00+. I receive the wishlist from Gunsamerica everyday listing Ruger's. I see Liberty models, tang safety all the time.I see 257 Roberts listed also.I've been surprised the little they are asking for them. I have a NIB Unfired M-77V in 25-06 with the tang safety.I thought about selling it thinking it would bring in premium dollars.Shoot I would be lucky to get 400.00 out of it.It's a pre warning. The heavy bull barrel with the Ruger Rings.I'll keep it before I give it away.About Ruger's customer service.All I know Ruger has always treated me well when it came to repair issues.If you do have any problems contact Mr. Beaulieu.His secretary Shirley is very helpful too.I happen to know someone who works for Ruger in Newport.I contacted him first. He went to Mr. Beaulieu and got the ball rolling. From then on I contact him myself.He's a very nice person and cares about Ruger's customers.
Ruger Redhawk
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Post by Backstrap on Jun 10, 2004 2:53:33 GMT -5
Thanks for the advise RR, I'll contact them about rebarreling my liberty model, but I want my old barrel back, and I told dad what you said today, and he called the gunsmith back that I was talking about, and I was mistaken the guy's shop is in Montgomery Ala, He said he sold that 95%'r 30-06 to a collector for an astonishing 1200 bucks not 900+ like I thought I was told, and they guy said that the average joe is not gonna pay that kind of money for one of those model's, but a serious collector that does not have that particular caliber to complete his collection, will pay the tall dollars for it! That guy say's he has made more on those Liberty model's than any other used collectible he sell's, but I'm keeping mine, I have it fitted with a five Bell & carson stock and it has harvested at least 150 deer for me over the years, but I would like for the headspace problem to be corrected with either a new barrel, or if they can machine it to make the headspace right, that would be cool too, I reall don't exactly know why the bullet has to jump such a gap in that gun(just a bad batch of barrles, I doubt they can repare it, actually I know they can't), but the firsts shot ot of it is a dead-center 10X, but will not group! And a 257 Roberts is an accurate round!
I'll give that guy a call and see what he can do for me! Thank's again! They may just regain an old customer, if they do me right! I know the gun is old, but it was defective right out of the box, and if they stand behind their stuff like you say, then they should be obligated to hook me up, they will if they want any further business out of me, and I'm thinking of getting another WSM, maybe a 300, or the talked about 257WSM that would be killer! and if Ruger makes those rounds, I would rather do business with them instead of Winchester, and I can not afford a Browning, and I doubt Remington will make anymore WSM's, I just got lucky on that experimental gun!
Roll Tide! Lee
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Post by Ruger Redhawk on Jun 10, 2004 17:59:34 GMT -5
Backstrap, I agree a collector will pay most anything to get a rifle(gun) he needs for his collection.A year or two ago I picked up on gunsamerica a Ruger M-77 7mmRM.S/S w/ a Walunt stock.My understanding Ruger didn't release many of these.It was NIB. I feel I paid a little to much but I wanted it.I gave 500.00,which is a along ways from 1200.00.Unfortunately the stock had one small handling mark.I carefully steamed it out.Unless you knew it was there you would probably never notice it. It bothers me knowing it's there.I'm not sure if Ruger will return your Liberty barrel. I seriously doubt if they will since it's a fitted item and I believe it's on a exchange basis only. It only takes a phone call.Ruger does not except Emails. You can send a letter directly to: Sturm, Ruger and Co.Inc. 411 Sunapee Street Newport, NH 03773 attn Di@k Beaulieu
Ruger's Main switchboard unless it's changed is 1-(603) 863-3300
I do hope he can help you.Ruger goes out of their way making things right.
Ruger Redhawk
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Post by quigleysharps4570 on Jun 10, 2004 21:39:26 GMT -5
Been partial to several brands over the years. Ruger has been good to me, carried a few around, all that's left is an old .220 Swift. Colts have been good and Brownings. Best pump I ever owned was the ole relible 870 Wingmaster the folks got me for christmas of 1969. Don't know how they are these days, but back then they were a fine shotgun.
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